Tuesday, October 22, 2013

Dating A Man Who Has A Babymama: What You Should Know Before You're In Too Deep!

So many women have entered into relationships with men who have children thinking it would not be a factor only to discover it can be a major source of conflict in the relationship.

If you are a young woman who's considering a relationship with a man with children, here are some things you need to keep in mind:

If his child(ren) never interrupt his life, he is not parenting, he's visiting. So many single young women who do not have children of their own jump at a chance to be with a man who says he has kids but still seems to have plenty of time to wine, dine and cuddle up. If he's with you all the time, then when exactly is he with his children?  In the land of Responsibility,  things come up. School, doctors visits, teacher conferences and sporting events are just some of the time consuming things that are included in raising children. If your man's schedule is tied up by things unrelated to his children, take this as a warning. If you become pregnant, your child with him may have to endure this same absence.

If he's paying child support, make sure you're not being used to supplement his income. Yes, there are men who enter into relationships with women just to ease the financial burden that child support may be causing them. Understand that child support is not punishment but a responsibility and if he whines about having to pay it, chances are he's whining about having to shoulder other responsibilities that a grown man should be capable of bearing. Does he want to move in with you after knowing you only for a short while? Is he asking you directly for financial help or always conveniently bringing up his financial needs when you all are together? These are all red flags that should be taken heart attack seriously. You might be someone he's setting up to use and misuse.

If he's a stand up dad, you won't have all of his time. It's impossible for a responsible father to devote 100% of his energy, attention and resources to you. If you require 100, a man with children may not be the right move for you. Also, don't pretend to be cool with him having a babymama when you're really not. If you don't like the idea of another woman having your man's ear to any extent, do not get involved.  Save yourself the frustration and heartache.  Co-parenting means he will have to communicate with the mother of his children and their ease of communication due to familiarity may offend you, especially if you're just starting a relationship with him. Sure, you have a right to say if something bothers you. But for a good man, the priority is his child first, then you. Your emotions may hate this, but deep down, you know it shouldn't be any other way.

There are more points that will be made in part 2 but for now, please give these your thoughtful consideration.  Before you enter any relationship it's wise to count up the cost. Dealing with children outside of the relationship and babymamas can be more than a little challenging.  Better to hear the real now than to be slapped with it once your emotions are in too deep.

Questions about this topic?  Hit me up! Let me hear from you. Blessings.  -Mel

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey girl! Blessings to you! I'm just writing to you because I stumbled across your blog and read a couple of your articles and I'm just very intrigued. I feel the need to tell you my story and how this whole "baby mama" theme fits it. I dated a guy all through high school it was very deep. We broke up when we went to college but always remained in each other's life. I loved him with all my soul and heart. I discovered that he was seeing someone although he didn't tell me about it and even though we were always in each other's life and messing with each other he felt it was justified because "we weren't together". Anyways I then found out (not through him) that he got this girl pregnant. At first I was crushed but he said he still wanted to be with me and I was willing to still be by his side and love and support him. He always told be all these crazy stories about her and how she was so crazy and viscous to him which I so gullibly believed. Time was passing and I was starting to grow tired of feeling insecure. I felt that he did not really love me, he just loved how I loved him. I decided to cut him off , change my number and attempt to finally move on. I figured that there are two sides to every story and I just wanted to remove myself from the equation and let him be a father and work things out with her. That's the impression I was recieving from him. It was extremely difficult because this guy was seriously my everything. I still pray for him and wish him the best but it's been very hurtful not talking to him for so long and not knowing anything about him. I just put myself in her shoes and decided to leave. It was not an easy thing to do. I'm 20 years old and haven't talked to him for over 6 months. I just felt that God was telling me to do this for everyone's well being. Not just myself, but that baby who is so innocent from all this drama him and her. I love children but I was just too hurt to stay. I felt bad talking about how I felt because I was mindful that his plate was full focusing on becoming a father, so I just left.

Melissa said...

Thank you for your comment Gloridely! First, you are to br commended for taking such a bold and mature step towards emotional freedom. So many women much older than you continue on for years on emotional rollercoaters and drama filled relationships instead of choosing to end the cycle. You may not see it now, but your decision was an investment in YOUR future. You have a right to a love that doesn't bring a whole lot of unecessary issues. Kudos for standing up for yourself! Your courage to believe you deserve more is an inspiration. Please stay connected! Blessings to you. -Mel

Unknown said...

I'm a 23 year old woman with a daughter of my own, I recently started dating a guy who is also 23 with a almost 2 year old son. They have been separated for almost a year, and his baby mama has been dating a guy for 6 months now. We'll last night she picked their son up and she hugged my boyfriend (her ex) and said "she misses her family and she shouldn't of broke up with him" we'll this is the first time she's ever done anything to this extent. She would always text or call him out the blue and ask what he's doing and who he's with and he would tell her that we were together. I asked my boyfriend how he felt about her coming out of no where saying these things and he keeps telling me he's "stuck" on the situation . He said "I'm not sure what to think". I don't know what to think and I'm kind of confused on what's going to happen. My boyfriend is upfront with everything I just don't want to keep asking him what is going to happen or how he's feeling.. Am I wrong or should I actually express what I'm feeling toward this entire situation?

Unknown said...

I'm a 23 year old woman with a daughter of my own, I recently started dating a guy who is also 23 with a almost 2 year old son. They have been separated for almost a year, and his baby mama has been dating a guy for 6 months now. We'll last night she picked their son up and she hugged my boyfriend (her ex) and said "she misses her family and she shouldn't of broke up with him" we'll this is the first time she's ever done anything to this extent. She would always text or call him out the blue and ask what he's doing and who he's with and he would tell her that we were together. I asked my boyfriend how he felt about her coming out of no where saying these things and he keeps telling me he's "stuck" on the situation . He said "I'm not sure what to think". I don't know what to think and I'm kind of confused on what's going to happen. My boyfriend is upfront with everything I just don't want to keep asking him what is going to happen or how he's feeling.. Am I wrong or should I actually express what I'm feeling toward this entire situation?

Melissa said...

Brandy, let me keep it real. I strongly advise men and women to not rush into romantic relationships with people with small children and your bf and his bmama are the reason why. Relationships that involve children are highly emotional and it takes time to really see if two people have moved on and are able to co parent with no drama. As a mom, you know this. My advice? Slow things down and guard your heart. If you're sleeping with him, stop so that emotions don't blind you. Your bf may be honest but that doesn't mean you can't still get hurt. Take a step back and see how things play out and if your bf is truly ready to move on and set boundaries with his bmama.

rosyray said...

Hello, I have been with my bf for 4 months now. He has 3 kids. An ex-wife & a baby mama. The bm has contacted me a few times ( she apparently went thru his phone & got my #) she told me to stay away from him. I recently found out that my bf got his bm a small gift. I've been his gf for 4 months & he's never given me a gift. I confronted him & he told me he did it to keep the peace with her for the sake of their child together.He tells me that theres nothing goin on btween them but I have my suspicions & him giving her a gift doesnt ease my doubts. This has caused friction in our relationship, I just dont know how to move past this.

Melissa said...

Rosyray, I will give it to you straight. When you decide to enter into a relationship with a man who has children with other women, then you also make the choice to deal with the presence of other women in this man's life. You can't control anyone but you and it's best to watch, listen and OBSERVE before getting emotionally and physically connected to a man with kids. It's best to be with a man who already has boundaries with the mothers of his children instead of hoping he'll put some in place once you're there. You asked your bf about the gift and he gave you an answer. You can either focus on his bmama or focus on your relationship with him. If your relationship with him is good, then you have to let this other stuff go. But if he's giving you reason to doubt his commitment to you, that isn't bmama's fault. Blessings and stay connected! -Mel

rosyray said...

Thank u

Pinky3 said...

I've been with my bf for two years now going on three there was a lot of back and forth drama between him me and his bm his bm she would screen shot text messages he sent her about wanting to be with her and he would say it was only to be with his son she keeps the child away from him unless he was messing with her well finally she moved on because he didn't want to lose me and I stayed around cuz I loved him she got into a relationship and everything was good between me and my bf UNTIL now she a single agin and I'm worried that I'm gonna go they the same drama I did when me and him first hooked up she already stared posting little sublimental messages on social networks about me I don't feed into them anymore and he says he's completely done with her.. Idk how to handle this

diahanna mills said...

Hello, I came across your blog by google! I need some insight on this baby mama, baby daddy situatuion. I am in a relationship with a man who Ive known since I was 19. He has always shared a interest in me but I took a couple of years to have the same interest! So fast forward, we are now in a relationship. He has 4 children and 3 different baby mamas. The first two I have no problems with and their children are of age. Now he has 2 little girls under the age of 5 with a girl who is older than him. They used to live together and I think they still share the same phone bill. She texted my phone because she said they were still living together but this was in the beginning with myself and him and so on, I asked how she got my number the number shows up on the bill on whoever is being called and texted. So my bf still has the same number and still on T moblie I have tolsd him numerous of times that if he doesn't break ties with her far as bills, cars in her name and etc we cannot be together. I just want some advice he is a very hands on dad and I admire that. I dont have any kids, but he gets his 2 lil girls on specific nights and Im wondering if he is watching his kids at her house,? I wonder if he still has a Key,? i went in his phone and seen thta she is calling him early mornings on his way to work and on his breaks. we live together! its just some things I know he lied about that I knew was a lie! our relationship is goin on a year and Im wondering should I let him go because certain things I cant understand...????

diahanna mills said...

Hello, I came across your blog by google! I need some insight on this baby mama, baby daddy situatuion. I am in a relationship with a man who Ive known since I was 19. He has always shared a interest in me but I took a couple of years to have the same interest! So fast forward, we are now in a relationship. He has 4 children and 3 different baby mamas. The first two I have no problems with and their children are of age. Now he has 2 little girls under the age of 5 with a girl who is older than him. They used to live together and I think they still share the same phone bill. She texted my phone because she said they were still living together but this was in the beginning with myself and him and so on, I asked how she got my number the number shows up on the bill on whoever is being called and texted. So my bf still has the same number and still on T moblie I have tolsd him numerous of times that if he doesn't break ties with her far as bills, cars in her name and etc we cannot be together. I just want some advice he is a very hands on dad and I admire that. I dont have any kids, but he gets his 2 lil girls on specific nights and Im wondering if he is watching his kids at her house,? I wonder if he still has a Key,? i went in his phone and seen thta she is calling him early mornings on his way to work and on his breaks. we live together! its just some things I know he lied about that I knew was a lie! our relationship is goin on a year and Im wondering should I let him go because certain things I cant understand...????

Unknown said...

Hey! I've read a couple of your posts and they've been very helpful. I have been dating a guy on and off for the past three years. During one of our longer "off" periods, he got his (now ex) girlfriend pregnant. His daughter is now 18 months and we have been dating for the past three months. He broke up with his baby momma because she cheated on him. She is dating other guys but flips out any time she finds out I'm around my boyfriend. My boyfriend started lying to her about me and won't let me post anything about him on Facebook. I'm not sure how to handle this. Any advise?

Unknown said...

Hey! I've read a couple of your posts and they've been very helpful. I have been dating a guy on and off for the past three years. During one of our longer "off" periods, he got his (now ex) girlfriend pregnant. His daughter is now 18 months and we have been dating for the past three months. He broke up with his baby momma because she cheated on him. She is dating other guys but flips out any time she finds out I'm around my boyfriend. My boyfriend started lying to her about me and won't let me post anything about him on Facebook. I'm not sure how to handle this. Any advise?

Unknown said...

Hi Melissa, Im Samantha & I wanted to share my current situation with you maybe you can tell me what u think. I started dating this guy knowing he has a daughter and a baby mother, 5 months later, we broke up because he found out I was cheating too when he was still having sexual affairs with his baby mother. altough, we were still seeing eachother, he still act like he was my man..l nothing changed between us but the " bf & gf " title... the baby mother on the other hand knew about all that, she is extremely angry about the fact that I still see the boy & she always coming at me arguing, & wanting to fight... she even be lying on my name, say stuff that I never said, texting her own fone from another fone making it seems like I'm dissing her daughter & the father... she made a whole lot of stuff up just so her baby father can stop talking to me. the baby gather himself wasn't letting me go anywhere.. he told me he was hurt after we cheated & that he needed time to forgive and forget then maybe we can try again. I was seeing him, & his child's mother was seeing him too. drama, drama, drama! she never stopped acting crazy and trying to get on my nerves but I never stopped talking to him neither. last year, the baby mother got pregnant by his baby father again & she thought that would deffinitely have me stop talking to him. Lol, I still talked to him & I'm willing to let him take his time, to work his family out & get back with me if we are gonna get back. beacause from what I'm seeing, I believe he really do love me & he loves his baby mother too but I'm sure he doesnt want to be with her after they were together for more than 10 years & when he still have me around wanting me to give him time . I'm 19 & I'm not rushing to be in a relationship anyways so I'm just chilling until I want to get my relationship life right.

Anonymous said...

Hey Melissa,

After reading your article I've gained insight on how difficult it can be to date a man with children, i met a guy in college in sept '12 and he would always stare and never say anything to me. In feb '12 When i first started speaking to him a few times he said 'if you hear things about me don't change your opinion of me. I found it strange but just acknowledged it. So things were going fine then all of a sudden he just stopped talking to me - i thought he was just one of those guys who wanted to have sex. So i didn't really mind that he wasn't there i mean if he wants sex its good he gone right. So months passed. Even summer. No contact no nothing. Second year of college started and we just passed each other on campus never said anything as i thought we both felt everything's gone in the past. Near October - nov i heard he got a girl ( his then gf) pregnant in his high school and his son was born in 2010. I was not completely sure that they broke up or were on and off. I was completely shocked and felt a bit betrayed at the fact he never told me at the start of him and I - so when I saw him around campus in nov/dec '12 i pulled him to the side and asked - why didn't you tell me you have a son? He said how can i say it. How can i say. I didn't know how far we were gonna. Didn't i say -'if you hear thins about me don't change your opinion of me'. Only a few days after did we all have an exam (as we were waiting to be seated for our rams i heard him talking to his friend about possibly moving in with the baby mama- so i thought they're probably on good terms so let them be?) after the exam i just rushed straight home because i just wanted to remove myself from the situation. The next day I heard he dropped out of college (sometimes i think its because i walked out of the exam hall not even asking him how his exam went? ) but unfortunately i never saw him again. No contact no nothing. Basically what I'm asking from you or any ladies is why he didn't tell me he had a son, i feel like i don't even know him or that what we had (even thought it was for a short time ) meant nothing to him. I felt that he didn't care that all this time i didn't know (about some other life he had) and that he just gave up on us. I felt that he was not willing to break what he had with the baby mother - to start fresh with me. Another things is that i felt like the baby mama should just have him - i respected her as a mum because she takes care of his child. Whether they broke up or not. The fact that she carried his child and that the child is priority then her then me put me off the whole idea. I didn't want to be a home wrecker or the bit on the side. But at the same time i felt i wanted to stay with him because we didn't get to know each other enough? I just want advice from you and even others on how i can move on from this situation - sometimes i feel that i didnt get my closure from him and I'll never forget it.
Pls help

Unknown said...

I've been dating my boyfriend for almost 5 months and we've already planned to get married here next year. Breaking up isn't an option for us. So I've been stuck over finding a solution to this certain problem. He is 30 and he has 2 baby mothers. He has a 5 year old by his first baby mother. They have a great co-parenting relationship with no drama and they have boundaries set. He also has a 1 year old by his 2nd baby mother. I know he's moved on, but I'm not completely sure that she has. She's messaged me trying to create problems and she's talked about fighting me in the beginning of our relationship. He says that she hasn't mentioned anything about their relationship or tried anything, but whenever he sees his son, she insists that she comes along. There's been issues before where at the beginning of our relationship, when she found out about me, she kept him from seeing his son. He went almost 2 months before she finally started letting him see his son as long as she came along, too. We've talked about it several times. I'm not sure why she insists on coming along. I don't find it necessary. I believe he should set some boundaries. He's mentioned turning in a petition to get visitation rights to her, and she got very upset. She says she's afraid of their son spending time around me. Which is understandable, but it's liable to happen. He also says if he turns in a petition, she will keep his son away from him and the court will side with her ( because of other issues from their relationship). I'm not sure what to do. I understand seeing his son is a priority. But I wonder if her coming along will ever end. How do I find a solution?

Melissa said...

Juana Cobian, thank you for stopping by. To answer your question, I will say be patient. Your man's second child is still quite young (1 year old) which makes the mom's emotional attachment to your man just as young. It takes some women years to get over a man and it it takes some women even LONGER to get over a man they have a child with. You can resent this fact or understand this fact going in. One thing's for sure. You're not helping yourself, your man or his children if you take a negative approach. The only thing you can do if you are truly in this relationship for the long haul is to fasten your seatbelt and get ready for a ride. It very will could take babymama#2 a very long time to grow up and move past what ever unresolved pain and hurt that she still has regarding your man. Neither of you can rush her healing process. It's up to him to set boundaries, if he chooses to, and it's up to you to hang in there and be patient for the long haul. Best of luck to you sis!

Melissa said...

Pinky3, thank you for your comment. To answer your question, you can't control what bmama does but you can control how you respond to it. Whether or not you have the same drama as the past depends on if you respond in the exact same way as you did in the past. I have a baby daddy who has a wife and that baby daddy also has a whole list of relatives on social media who I'm almost 100% feel some type of way about me but I can't tell you one shady comment any of them have made because they are all blocked. I'm not checking for drama so I don't have to deal with it, feel me? Bmama can only bring problems and drama to your life and relationship if the two of you allow her to. Your man has to deal with her because of their child but there's really no reason you should have to deal with her at all personally and I certainly wouldn't be stressing myself out following her around on facebook to see what kind of lowkey shade she might be trying to throw at me if I were you. It's time to let her go (BLOCK her) and move on sis. Focus on building a strong relationship with your man; the kind of relationship that petty little girls can't touch. Blessings to you.

Melissa said...

diahanna mills, please forgive me for taking so long to respond to your post. I've been away for personal reasons but doing my best to catch up. To answer your question, you need to take one giant step back. Your man clearly hasn't severed all of his unnecessary ties and connections to his baby mama. Now, that's convenient for him (he gets to keep his same cellphone number and carrier, or whatever other excuse) but his convenience is coming at the expense of your respect. Never let a man disrespect you. Baby mama, unfortunately has the upper hand here and your man seems quite content in allowing her to have it. The choice is your. Make your standards and expectations clear. There's no reason he should still have a phone with this woman and if you suspect that something inappropriate is going on between them, you have every right to because he hasn't shown you otherwise. Guard your heart and stick to your standards sis. The only woman he should be trying to please is you and with or without kids, that's not too much to ask. Blessings sis.

Melissa said...

diahanna mills, please forgive me for taking so long to respond to your post. I've been away for personal reasons but doing my best to catch up. To answer your question, you need to take one giant step back. Your man clearly hasn't severed all of his unnecessary ties and connections to his baby mama. Now, that's convenient for him (he gets to keep his same cellphone number and carrier, or whatever other excuse) but his convenience is coming at the expense of your respect. Never let a man disrespect you. Baby mama, unfortunately has the upper hand here and your man seems quite content in allowing her to have it. The choice is your. Make your standards and expectations clear. There's no reason he should still have a phone with this woman and if you suspect that something inappropriate is going on between them, you have every right to because he hasn't shown you otherwise. Guard your heart and stick to your standards sis. The only woman he should be trying to please is you and with or without kids, that's not too much to ask. Blessings sis.

Melissa said...

diahanna mills, please forgive me for taking so long to respond to your post. I've been away for personal reasons but doing my best to catch up. To answer your question, you need to take one giant step back. Your man clearly hasn't severed all of his unnecessary ties and connections to his baby mama. Now, that's convenient for him (he gets to keep his same cellphone number and carrier, or whatever other excuse) but his convenience is coming at the expense of your respect. Never let a man disrespect you. Baby mama, unfortunately has the upper hand here and your man seems quite content in allowing her to have it. The choice is your. Make your standards and expectations clear. There's no reason he should still have a phone with this woman and if you suspect that something inappropriate is going on between them, you have every right to because he hasn't shown you otherwise. Guard your heart and stick to your standards sis. The only woman he should be trying to please is you and with or without kids, that's not too much to ask. Blessings sis.

Feeling unfortunate said...

Mel...i ran across your blog and some advice here is really needed. I am the girlfriend of a man who it seems allows his baby mother to run over him. The mother has called him asking if he could put air in her tire...and possibly other things that i dont know about. That was jus one instance he revealed to me. However...he has brought to my attention that he let the baby mother into the house we share because she wanted to see the room her daughter sleeps in. The room was nothing before i moved in...i put my brand new king bedroom set in there because of course we already had a bed...his! So his 14 year old sleeps in it when she comes over on weekends. I wasnt even at the house wen she came over and he didnt tell me about it until days after it happened. Im over the whole dam relationship now and plus i want to move back into my own place..i have a 6 year old from a previous relationship who lives in the home with us too...just feeling like i put me and my child in a bad situation...i havent evn told him that i want out...bad thing is its only been about 2 months that we have joined households. Any advice?

Melissa said...

Feeling Unfortunate, thank you for stopping by! My first piece of advice would be to calm down! :) You cannot continue to make major decisions in your feelings which you probably did two months ago by moving in together with your bf. What are the facts? Outside of the baby mama situation, does he respect you? Is he kind, thoughtful, loving and a good provider? These are the "bones" of your relationship. If these are solid then everything else can be worked out. Your bf has a 14 yr old daughter with another woman which means that for 14 yrs he's dealt with her and her mother a certain way that doesn't include your feelings. Now that you're in his life, he has to adjust and you do too. It's fair to ask for him to set boundaries with his daughter's mom but be sure you're not being petty when you do. Pick your battles carefully. If you have a good man, he wants to naturally please you but he also wants to know that you can accept his life, flaws and all. He won't be perfect and he may do something that offends. That's when you have to be a big girl and trust what you both have. Calm down and truly evaluate your relationship. It's natural to want your man all to yourself. It just isn't possible. If this relationship is worth it, roll up your sleeves and work on YOU first. Deal with why you're really upset which is insecurity. Baby mama nor your bf can fix this. You have to be a strong, confident woman for yourself and trust the man you're with. If you can't do that, then it may be time to pack. Relationships take work and 90% of that work starts with self. Blessings sis!